David Wolfe is a Health, Eco, Nutrition, Natural Beauty Expert, and the person we can thank for having raw cacao and coconut oil in this lifetime! His great passion and commitment to making everyday the best day ever has been the spark for our interest in health and happiness. Noelle and I had the blessing of chatting with David during the 2014 Longevity Now Conference. He is nothing short of a visionary and thought-leader. His delightful kindness is the icing on the raw cake to make this gentleman a total superhero!
Noelle: This quote struck me in an old interview that you did with Bob Avery. “Life is the actualization of potential. Potential is actualized in the midst of the outer environment. The environment does not determine the inner potential, it can only help or hinder its expression. Also, the inner potential can actually determine and alter the outer environment!” I love that quote, could you expand on it?
David: I’m a believer that the inside becomes the outside. That we are self-generating actualized beings that can change the outer environment by an inner change. And what I’m getting at there is that the inner attitude, the inner potential, the inner behavior, the inner thought-process, the inner mental conversations, and inner emotional conversations eventually are expressed outward in the world, and that becomes our destiny.
N: You hit on that subject today when you said “people are waking up to where they can move into a certain destiny”, I wrote that quote down. I feel like we are not taught that. I love “Alice in Wonderland” and the idea of “six impossible things before breakfast”, so that is my mantra. But so often we’re taught that curiosity and belief in the unimaginable are childlike. We seem to focus more on fear which you also addressed in the Avery interview when you said “fear always has been and always will be the great enemy of human potential.”
D: Parameters that are set around us either by karma or by peers is the great enemy of humankind - that is what limits our potential. As you approach that threshold, you develop fear.
N: Did you think that people would have this profound reaction to the message you were sharing with them when you originally started all of this?
D: No, it wasn’t possible for me to perceive that. I’ve never really imagined it, actually. The reason I do what I do is because I’m archetypically, genetically, and karmically a public speaker. I’ve connected public speaking to my great passion which is health, raw food, superfoods, superherbs, and living water. When that connection happened I knew this was going to go all the way. I’ve always loved public speaking, but I was never able to connect it with my real passion due to karmic blockages or something that never fit. All of a sudden one night on August 16th, 1994 it connected. That was it and I knew it was going to happen. It’s been almost twenty years. Part of that download was that twenty years later I would be where I wanted to be if I propelled myself in that direction. Everything else that occurs - the good and the bad and the ugly - you get everything when you are out in the public eye. You get people who love you; you get people who hate you. You get people who are transformed by your message; you get people who don’t want to hear your message. It has developed within me equanimity. What drives me is an inner passion that I have for public speaking and the inner passion that I have for the subject matter. My hope is that the public thinks the message is amazing, but my experience is that yes - that does happen, and other things happen.
I stay in that zone of what makes me happy. I hover in that zone. Whether it’s something I want to do or something I don’t want to do, I am always striving to be happy doing it. So, I get equanimity, and I kind of don’t get it also. There is a side of me that’s like, “I’m going to be happy come hell or high water”.
N: How do you keep your energy with all that you are doing? Obviously your diet plays a big role, but is it the passion and motivation that fuels you?
D: I thoroughly enjoy what I’m doing and thoroughly enjoy the people that come to these events, so I’m never actually worn out to a point where I’m disturbed. Generally the source of my energy is coming from a number of places. One is an inner passion, an inner fire. Another one is that I always do everything I can to draw in the manna, the life-force power and energy from the places that I visit and the sacred sites I go to. For example when I was in Chavin, which is one of the great sites in Peru, and we had this amazing day at the temple there and at the end of the day I’m looking at that river like “I’ve got to get in…that is a sacred holy river right there…that’s the meeting of waters from glacial melts of the fifty tallest peaks in Peru and come down into one river. I’ve got to get in that.” So, I will force myself to do that, to pull in that energy no matter how hard it is. Sometimes it’s cold water, sometimes it’s hot water, sometimes it’s being barefoot on the Earth, sometimes its eating the food from that particular area, sometimes it’s the atmosphere - certain aspects of the rarified atmosphere from certain locations on the planet, that I will breathe that manna in. I make that a discipline in my life.
One of my favorite spots is in Marin County, California - just north of the Golden Gate Bridge, and I have been up there in the middle of the night, 2 or 3 in the morning after being in the Sacred Chocolate factory for two or three days straight, not even leaving the building….and I haven’t showered, so I’m like…”I got to go up there and get my spring water”, cause it’s all spring fed, and “I’ve got to bathe”. It’s the middle of winter, the winds sweep right in from the ocean and it is a wet-cold that people dread about San Francisco and Seattle. Sometimes I’ve been at the edge of that pool and it has struck fear into my heart. I know how cold it’s going to be and I know how intense it is. I strip off all my clothes and I get all the way in, then I get out, and then I get all the way in again. I’ve found out that just one dip is not enough and that I’m not really getting the manna from just one dip, it has to be two. I force myself to do those things. It’s a source of energy.
N: Do you think by overcoming the mental “I don’t want to do this” that you get extra life and energy?
D: I don’t know how other people think about it, but I know the way that I’ve come to think about it and the way I think about is - it’s my identity. I get in that glacial melt water. We hiked a glacier in Iceland…a majorly intense experience. On the way down I almost had no strength in my knees at all, it was really intense to actually get down. We get down to the bottom and there is a glacial melt phenomenon happening and I was like… “I just sweated for like ten hours straight, hardcore…I’m getting in that glacial melt water” because it’s part of my identity whether I like it or not.
N: Tell us more about the Fruit Tree Planting Foundation. The project sounds amazing!
D: It is really the greatest miracle of my life and the most amazing project I’ve ever been involved with. Thanks to Cem Akin who is that guy. He came over from PETA and came to work with us. He has absolutely been the greatest blessing of my life, ever. He has literally done miracles, miracle after miracle. It is just incredible. The projects that we’ve done- the schools that we’ve visited, the Native American reservations, the hunger relief sites, it is all miraculous. We plant tens of thousands of trees every year and we’re probably overall at one million trees, but our goal is 18 billion trees. It’s going to be that ramp up. We have two and half teams now, eventually it will be three, then it will be six, then it will be ten, then twenty, then two hundred and we are going to grow it like that.
N: I think sometimes we feel overwhelmed and do not know how to help, because the project seems so big. But here we can make a huge impact by planting a tree.
D: Years ago I was listening to Terrance McKenna and there is so much information about consciousness — where do you start? His answer was profound, his answer was - get the plants and grow them and try to figure it out yourself. I took that advice. I took that advice ten years ago. I got the plants, started growing them and tried to figure it out myself and it is amazing what has happened. Our interaction with plants, in my opinion, totally connects us spiritually to the overall vision of creation. Second of all, it puts us into the soil and gets us into the magic of growth and understanding growth and nourishment and love. Third of all, it is creating something that can be given and donated to the future. It’s something that, when we’re gone, it keeps going. What an amazing thing.
N: I think just by taking something and planting it, you feel your value. I have the same idea as far as gardening not just with children but with women who’ve been sexually or physically abused and give them something that they can nurture and grow. Not only are they getting their hands in the dirt and grounding themselves, but they’re providing for themselves and for future people, because when you put love into something you put love into yourself. People seem to be catching on to this movement.
D: Yes, it is exciting. I find it interesting at this conference that both Dr. Mercola and Joel were as passionate as I’ve ever seen them about anything about gardening and farming. Especially for Mercola who has been an avatar of great health for many years, but to me in my mind, when I’m with those kinds of people - there is a separation with the connection to the Earth because I’m that person that’s farming it. Any herb I’m talking about up on that stage, I’ve grown it. I know it from the inside out; I’ve grown it from a seed all the way. I’ve grown chocolate trees from seed all the way to producing chocolate trees. To me, it’s like - I’ve always been disturbed by that disconnect - but then all of a sudden I’m sitting down with Mercola and he’s like “I’m so excited about my orchards, etc.,” and I’m like — he connected it! He actually said that - he said “connecting the whole loop”, and Joel said the same thing. I was like…its working — we are getting there. It’s awesome.
N: For me time in nature is imperative for my overall health and happiness.
D: We do a Superhero Training Program and a very important part of that program is that every day you take one hour and you spend it in nature. It’s actually mandatory, because nature is a cacophony of high frequency energies. It’s happy, buzzing, fractal interplay of all these energies — and when you get into it, it entrains you to that…but as soon as you get back into the world it’s like low energy vibes, weird emotional upheavals, and all that kind of stuff. Just an hour in nature a day will transform your life because you suddenly realize what is real. That’s my feeling about nature’s secret ambience.
N: Any final words of wisdom?
D: I’m a big believer in writing things down and that your destiny can be shaped by the way you write your destiny on a piece of paper or type it into your computer. You can write your own story. In fact, our life is not a mathematical equation. We don’t live inside a machine, nothing is mechanistic. We live inside an imaginative story. The story of your life is the greatest story ever told.